A quote from Ashley Ndukwe:
Several interesting stories come in response:
For example, u/edibleharts writes:
My husband lost his virginity to a grown woman when he was 14 she was like 25-30. He remembers it fondly but I’m like fuck that if I found out my 14 year old son had sex with an adult woman I would have her in handcuffs immediately. She should be registered and treated exactly like a man would be.
Edit: Wow, some pedophile apologists really coming out of the woodworks here. How young does it have to be for it to be non consensual? 12? 11? 10? 9? We can keep going. A 30 year old man with a 14 year old girl is gross and illegal, it doesn’t matter of he’s hot. SAME with a woman and a boy. Especially teachers and women in positions of power with kids.
If girls are mentally more mature than boys at 14 then you could maybe even argue it’s worse to take advantage of boys.
And u/SirDuke6 chimes in as well:
Honestly, the amount of women who had lifted up my shirt without my consent/attention at the bar when I was a gym regular was ridiculous. I was going to the gym 5-6 days a week for almost 2 years and developed a healthy body and the way women felt the need to lift my shirt up at the bar or parties was so inappropriate. I try to be a modest person and hate attention so to have someone make me feel like an attention seeking d-bag was genuinely degrading.
The article, “Am I a bad feminist?” by Margaret Atwood, published by The Globe and Mail, inspired a Reddit thread in /r/books in recent weeks. User u/26224_56 writes, “For me, these were the money quotes”
. . . vigilante justice – condemnation without a trial – begins as a response to a lack of justice – either the system is corrupt, as in prerevolutionary France, or there isn’t one, as in the Wild West – so people take things into their own hands. But understandable and temporary vigilante justice can morph into a culturally solidified lynch-mob habit, in which the available mode of justice is thrown out the window. . .
“The #MeToo moment is a symptom of a broken legal system. All too frequently, women and other sexual-abuse complainants couldn’t get a fair hearing through institutions – including corporate structures – so they used a new tool: the internet. Stars fell from the skies. This has been very effective, and has been seen as a massive wake-up call. But what next? The legal system can be fixed, or our society could dispose of it . . . If the legal system is bypassed because it is seen as ineffectual, what will take its place? Who will be the new power brokers? . . . In times of extremes, extremists win. Their ideology becomes a religion; anyone who doesn’t puppet their views is seen as an apostate, a heretic or a traitor, and moderates in the middle are annihilated. Fiction writers are particularly suspect because they write about human beings, and people are morally ambiguous. The aim of ideology is to eliminate ambiguity.”
User u/Riace adds in “…she does not waste one word. Breath of fresh air from start to finish,” commenting on the paragraph:
“This structure – guilty because accused – has applied in many more episodes in human history than Salem. It tends to kick in during the “Terror and Virtue” phase of revolutions – something has gone wrong, and there must be a purge, as in the French Revolution, Stalin’s purges in the USSR, the Red Guard period in China, the reign of the Generals in Argentina and the early days of the Iranian Revolution. The list is long and Left and Right have both indulged. Before “Terror and Virtue” is over, a great many have fallen by the wayside. Note that I am not saying that there are no traitors or whatever the target group may be; simply that in such times, the usual rules of evidence are bypassed.”
Below is an excerpt from the Reddit.com thread,
“Women of Reddit, what is the worst thing a female friend has done to a man, did you speak up about it?”
You’ll find a long list of interesting stories on the following thread:
Women of Reddit, what is the worst thing a female friend has done to a man, did you speak up about it? from AskReddit
When we were all in our early 20s, a guy friend and I introduced our respective best friends and they really hit it off. They dated for a couple of months but he started to cool off because she was moving too quickly, talking marriage and making demands about diamonds. He told her he wanted to slow things down – not break up, mind you, just slow it down. She did not take it well.
A couple of us were having dinner together when he showed up. She’d been calling him for hours and leaving angry voicemails when he didn’t answer. He wanted to end it so he called her. At some point he put it on speakerphone and she was threatening him. “If you break up with me I’m going to tell my mother you raped me. I saved the condom from the last time. You will go to jail.” She and I stopped being friends that night.
The last couple of weeks have been a couple of high profile rape cases collapse in the UK. Basically, they’ve followed the same pattern:
- Couple has sex.
- There is lots of evidence on his phone that it was consensual. Text messages saying what a great time she had, photos showing them wrapped-up in bed wearing post-sex grins, the lot.
- She decides a week later it was rape. Police investigate, arrest him, confiscate his phone as evidence, charge him.
- A year later – and about a week before it comes to court – the police finally reveal what they took off the phone. And it includes all the text messages and photos.
That’s a year these men have had to put their life on hold. A year they have to explain to friends and relations that it’s not true. A year they’ve heard “no smoke without fire” mutterings under people’s breath.
Frankly, they’re lucky the media has picked up their stories.
Read through the entire thread for additional thoughts.